Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

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Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby Frayed Knot » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:39 pm

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Postby Frayed Knot » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:03 pm

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C Welington Castillo -- ex of the Cubs, Mariners, Snakes and, most recently, the Orioles -- to the ChiSox on a two year deal


And on the other side of Chicago: LHR Dario Alvarez, a Met for about 20 minutes (OK it was 10 appearances across parts of 2014 & 2015) inks a one year deal with the Cubs
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Postby Frayed Knot » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:18 pm

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RHP Tyler Chatwood to the Cubs on a three year deal for "around $40 million".

Chatwood seemed like one of those guys who just emerged so I had no idea he was a FA.
But it turns out that he's been in the majors since 2011 and with Colorado since 2012. But he was only a part-timer for a while and then missed all of 2015 so it kind of was just in 2016 that he started attracting notice [12-9; 3.87]. HIs 2017 wasn't as good but apparently clubs are intrigued by his 'secondary metrics' plus the prospect of the soon to be 28 y/o getting out of Cape Coors.
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Postby smg58 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:26 pm

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Chatwood has never pitched more than 158 innings, which makes this a fairly big gamble.

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Postby LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:51 am

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Weird market. Chatwood's a spin-rate darling, but... multi-year deal @ $13m AAV? I guess it's good to be a FA starter this offseason.
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Postby smg58 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:26 am

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Which is all the justification for tendering contracts to Harvey and Wheeler that you need.

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Postby bmfc1 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:53 pm

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Bryan Shaw, not to the Mets but to the Rockies. Damn those big-city teams!
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Postby Ceetar » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:24 pm

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Postby Centerfield » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:58 am

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Ceetar wrote:Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything.


I hate to break this to you, but neither are the Mets.

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Postby Ceetar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:14 am

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Centerfield wrote:
Ceetar wrote:Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything.


I hate to break this to you, but neither are the Mets.


they're a better team than Shaw is a reliever. And Shaw doesn't particularly push the needle much on the first part.
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Postby 41Forever » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:18 am

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Centerfield wrote:
Ceetar wrote:Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything.


I hate to break this to you, but neither are the Mets.



I would disagree on that one. Mets are a good team with a season devastated by injuries as opposed to a bad team that lacks talent.

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Postby Benjamin Grimm » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:19 am

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I think they're a "good" team but I have my doubts about whether they're a "good enough" team.

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Postby 41Forever » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:30 am

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Benjamin Grimm wrote:I think they're a "good" team but I have my doubts about whether they're a "good enough" team.


Not disagreeing on that one! Definitely places to upgrade.

Re: Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby Vic Sage » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:00 am

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As it's turning out, ALL the deals at the Winter 2017/18 meetings aree "non-NYM FA deals"
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Re: Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby smg58 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:09 am

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Still plenty of relievers on the market. Shaw's price got too high. Morrow's deal (with the Cubs) wasn't cheap either. I fell a small amount of regret over Mike Minor, but he may have gone with the team that was willing to start him anyway.

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Postby Ashie62 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:01 pm

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Shaw is a Rockie at 27 million for three years. Fairly priced for an elite 8th inning guy by me..

I have seen speculation that Sandy has been talking to Fernando Rodney's peoples fwiw.

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Postby A Boy Named Seo » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:05 pm

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Not Rodney. Please no Rodney.
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Re: Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby Ashie62 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:19 pm

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I feel your pain. A Rodney signing would not surprise me in any way.

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Postby MFS62 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:40 pm

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Sigh.

OE, saw that FK had already noted this in the Winter meetings thread.

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Re: Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby Ashie62 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:41 pm

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Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic confirms that the Angels' acquisition of Ian Kinsler from the Tigers is a done deal.

According to Anthony Fenech of the Detroit Free Press, the Tigers will receive right-hander Wilkel Hernandez and outfielder Troy Montgomery in return. Neither of them are top prospects, so this was mostly about shedding Kinsler's $10 million salary for 2018. In the end, Kinsler waived his no-trade clause to go to the Angels. The 35-year-old is coming off a down season where he batted just .236/.313/.412 with 22 homers over 139 games, but he's still a strong defender and gives the Angels a sizable upgrade at second base. The Angels apparently might not be done, as they also hope to make a move for a third baseman.

Re: Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby smg58 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:10 pm

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They aren't done; they just signed Zack Cozart to play third for three years and $38M.

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Postby smg58 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:14 pm

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Carlos Santana goes to the Phillies for 3 years and $60 million. Even if I was looking for a first baseman, that's about 15 million more than I'd have offered.

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:16 pm

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I figure the Phillies must see us vulnerable enough to overcome, and Marlins and Braves irrelevant for the time being, and so all they need is a shaky year from Washington and KAPOW!
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Postby Edgy MD » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:44 pm

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The Phillies got very little production out of first and third last year. They kind of had to fill one of those blanks in.

Cosart was on my short list of possible Mets infielders. I was leery his sudden and dramatic bump in OBP last year might reverse itself. And I wasn't sure he'd be willing to move off short, but there he is, going to play third in Anaheim.
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Re: Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

Postby Centerfield » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 pm

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smg58 wrote:They aren't done; they just signed Zack Cozart to play third for three years and $38M.


This seems pretty reasonable. Is Cozart older? I would have been ok with getting Cozart for 3B and moving Asdrubal to 2B. Plus you could slide Cozart to SS if Rosario stumbles and that would make space for Florvera.

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