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Duda redo?

Postby 41Forever » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:47 pm

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Seeing a number of posts today about the Mets talking to Duda again.

I don’t see a role. Clearly powerful, but plays one position in a non-DH league. If he comes back, that has to be a sign that Dom Smith is either not what they thought or is about to be part of a deal.

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Postby Benjamin Grimm » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:51 pm

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I don't know how you fit Duda and Bruce on the same team, unless the plan is to have Dom Smith spend the year at AAA. And if Duda gets a multi-year contract, I have to figure that they're trading Smith.

I don't see it happening.

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Postby Edgy MD » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:23 pm

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Picking up options on Blevins and Cabrera! Re-signing Bruce and maybe Duda!

If they can reach out to Grandy and Walker and Reyes, it'll be the boldest double down ever! Too bad it's too late to gobble Rivera back up! Get me Fernando Salas on line two!
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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:26 pm

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Peeps forget the offense was actually okay last year. That said if the Mets get Doodoo back I guess that means they're pretty CAHNfident Smith is going to suck.
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Postby Centerfield » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:08 pm

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Peeps forget the offense was actually okay last year. That said if the Mets get Doodoo back I guess that means they're pretty CAHNfident Smith is going to suck.


Or it's a hedge made by a win now team. I'd have no issue with Duda on a 1 year deal, but again, if the resources are limited, there might be better uses.

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Postby Nymr83 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm

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if Duda will take one year i'm fine signing him and planting Smith at AAA once Conforto is healthy, assuming nobody else gets hurt. but its the Mets. someone will be hurt.
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Postby Valadius » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:58 pm

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I see no point in this. At all. Smith can't get his shot?
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It's possible that Duda is available at a bargain-basement price. That might make it worth seeing what Smith could bring back, but we'd probably be selling low on a guy who actually had a very high percentage of hard-hit balls but was criminally unlucky. There's no good reason to think Smith will suck long-term. Demoting Smith is an option, but I'm inclined to think that Las Vegas doesn't help hitting prospects any.

In other words, call me back when the infield is solid, the pitching is much improved, and we still have some cash left over.

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Postby Edgy MD » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:18 pm

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:29 am

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What a great guy Duda is.

You know, maybe the 5th outfielder/LH pinch hitter can be Grandyman.

Maybe Sandy's weird "unfinished business" remark is his own attempt to prove he'd built an adequate team last year that just happened to have been beset by too much calamity.

I don't actually believe my own theory but I wonder how Sandy truly feels.
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Duda belongs in the AL, not on this team. Nice guy but too one-dimensional.
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As I've said before, Duda is getting no more than a one-year deal (maybe 1 + 1 if he's lucky) and I highly doubt it will be from the Mets.
And if by some chance it IS with us I'd see it as a way of delaying Smith by another year (or partial year) but NOT with the idea of jettisoning him.
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Duda, one yr, off the bench pinch hitter/a Smith hedge & Smith needs a day off guy. No OF unless we have a 10 run lead, lol. I doubt he would take that. He should be able to find more playing time in the A.L. no problem.

Always liked Duda. And liked him more as time went by. He worked very hard to make needed improvements. And he learned to shut off the crowd completely. May as well have been empty stands to him. That's important for a guy who hears as many boooo's as cheers.

Unless the Mets know something we don't about Smith I want to see him out there the most. Did he get injured a lot in the minors? Yes, he gets a full shot.
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Postby Nymr83 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:29 pm

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I like Duda, but give Smith his shot. if Smith shits the bed, a guy like Duda is probably available via trade from someine wanting to salary dump in June, though.
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Postby Centerfield » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:01 am

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I guess this really means no Duda. Or Hosmer or Adam Lind or anyone else.

I know JCL still has feeling for his ex Granderson. Duda was the one I had to fight the urge to text after knocking a few back.

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Drunk-Texts to Duda would make a really good blog or social media profile or whatever a Tumblr is.
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Postby Nymr83 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:26 am

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Gonzalez probably closes the door on Duda, but if you are an advocate for Smith that is probably a good thing because Gonzalez represents lesser competition/ less of a roadblock for him.
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Postby Ceetar » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:34 pm

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I mean, i'd be ecstatic if Smith turns out to be as good as Duda, and if signing Duda for just money doesn't hurt anything budget wise I'd say for it.
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Postby Rockin' Doc » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:08 pm

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Duda seemed like a good guy and a great teammate in the clubhouse, but I was never as enthused with him as most on this board. Duda has tremendous power when he hits the ball, but he is a career .242 hitter that strikes out a lot.

I don't expect Dom Smith to develop the power that Duda has, but I'm hopeful he will hit for a far better average over time. If Smith can hit 18-20 HR a year and hit .275 or better while playing solid defense, I'll take it.

With the signing of Gonzalez, any speculation regarding Duda is pretty much a mute point.
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33 first baseman hit at least 18 HR last year.
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Postby Rockin' Doc » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:40 pm

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Ceetar wrote:33 first baseman hit at least 18 HR last year.


I would imagine that 33 (or more) first baseman hit better than .217 last season. Two of the best first basemen the Mets ever had (John Olerud and Keith Hernandez) seldom hit more than 18 home runs a season. Not saying Dom Smith will turn out to be nearly as good as those two, but I hope he is more like them at the plate (in discipline and stylistically) and less like Duda.

I for one, am tired of the Mets having a bunch of guys hitting solo home runs. The majority of the line up consists of sluggers who hit a lot of home runs while striking out a great deal. The team needs some good BA/OBP guys.
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Postby Ceetar » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:54 pm

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Rockin' Doc wrote:
Ceetar wrote:33 first baseman hit at least 18 HR last year.


I would imagine that 33 (or more) first baseman hit better than .217 last season. Two of the best first basemen the Mets ever had (John Olerud and Keith Hernandez) seldom hit more than 18 home runs a season. Not saying Dom Smith will turn out to be nearly as good as those two, but I hope he is more like them at the plate (in discipline and stylistically) and less like Duda.

I for one, am tired of the Mets having a bunch of guys hitting solo home runs. The majority of the line up consists of sluggers who hit a lot of home runs while striking out a great deal. The team needs some good BA/OBP guys.



..like Duda.

over the last three seasons Duda's BB% was 29th in baseball. Granderson's was 14th. Those are the things we need to replace next year. It's why Neil Walker is probably the best option.

Duda's wRC+, a weighted metric that measures how much a player contributes to run creation, was 119. 19% better than average and 47 in baseball of the 232 qualifying players over the last three seasons.

Bruce is the slugger with no other skills you're thinking of. the rest of the team is mostly fine in that regard. striking out isn't really a big deal.
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Postby Rockin' Doc » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:09 pm

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Duda did hit .217 for the season last year. It's not as if his 200 plate appearances with the Rays never happened.

I guess it is safe to say that we have different views on how to build a productive line up.
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Postby Ceetar » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:20 pm

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well for one, batting average is basically a worthless statistic and I wasn't even looking at it.
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