Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

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Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Edgy MD » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:27 pm

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An inconsistent 2014 saw Bartolo Colon alternating three good starts with three spotty starts. He did what he's best at — limiting walks and pitching deep into games, but one might hope for more winning baseball.

Oh, and he swung the bat like a maniac. Made Al Leiter look like a pro.

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Is it all about the inning-eating? Or is there more you can get out of Bartolo? What do you think he'll give the Mets in 2015?

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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby themetfairy » Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:36 pm

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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr » Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:49 pm

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Y'know, the only real difference between his 2013 and his 2014 with us-- apart from hilarity-value-added from the ABs-- is 20 more hits allowed, with half of those flying out of the park. His K numbers and control numbers were both better.

I'm not sure how much of the hittability will "normalize," especially since the career HR rate is far closer to last year's than 2013's, but hey... one can hope and pray. All the easier, since he looks like a binging cherub.

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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:07 pm

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Will Bartolo break Doug Saunders' record? And if he does, will Bartolo then hold onto it?

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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Lefty Specialist » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:54 pm

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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:08 pm

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I have no idea what to expect of him. Something less than last year I guess is a good place to start. He'll have a small fire beneath him in that there seems to be a few contenders for his job if he doesn't get it done.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Edgy MD » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:08 pm

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themetfairy wrote:Look for the best, expect the worst....

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My first thought is "Why is Lucas Duda playing shortstop?"

I'm trying to figure out what angle you're shooting from here.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:10 pm

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Lefty Specialist wrote:Assures his spot in the rotation when he accidentally eats Dillon Gee for breakfast.


Accidentally?

Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby themetfairy » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:20 pm

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Edgy MD wrote:
themetfairy wrote:Look for the best, expect the worst....

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My first thought is "Why is Lucas Duda playing shortstop?"

I'm trying to figure out what angle you're shooting from here.


Lucas was at first base. Bartolo was looking at the outfield between pitches.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Frayed Knot » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:22 pm

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Edgy MD wrote:I'm trying to figure out what angle you're shooting from here.


You've got cold evidence that Mike Maddux is apparently mesmerized from checking out Bartolo's butt and your biggest concern is the camera angle?!?
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Lefty Specialist » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:40 pm

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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Lefty Specialist wrote:Assures his spot in the rotation when he accidentally eats Dillon Gee for breakfast.


Accidentally?


Dillon was wearing his camouflage uniform and Bartolo mistook him for a stack of flapjacks with syrup.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:33 pm

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Lefty Specialist wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Lefty Specialist wrote:Assures his spot in the rotation when he accidentally eats Dillon Gee for breakfast.


Accidentally?


Dillon was wearing his camouflage uniform and Bartolo mistook him for a stack of flapjacks with syrup.



Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby MFS62 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:41 am

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8-6 4.25 traded late in year to make room for a younger arm.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby smg58 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:56 am

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MFS62 wrote:8-6 4.25 traded late in year to make room for a younger arm.
Later


The only thing I'd change from this is he might get traded earlier in the year to make room for Dillon Gee.

Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:58 am

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I'm also trading this guy, in late June, to the Angels. He's 4-4, 4.01 in about 76 innings at that point.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby A Boy Named Seo » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:01 pm

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I also expect he'll get traded, but just prior to the July deadline. I'll peg him for 10 wins in 19 starts, 123 IP, 3.84 ERA, just under 6 K/9. We'll get a single-A kid and a PTBNL for him.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby d'Kong76 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:00 am

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I'll echo the gets traded after going about .500... mid July.

Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Ceetar » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:08 am

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9 starts before traded. 34 Ks. 3.8 ERA. 19 BB, 15 comments from me about how he's campaigning for the DH in the National League. (not counting this one)
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Nymr83 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:34 pm

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gets hurt in the 1st 2 months and is never heard from again as either Gee or Syndergaard make his return undesirable to management. alternatively, they trade him in june and eat half the contract to get a prospect back
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:12 pm

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When he stays the whole year, and is starting the Wild-Card one-game playoff, I will have all y'all's money.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Benjamin Grimm » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:35 am

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Adam Rubin reports that Bartolo will be the Opening Day starter.

Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Edgy MD » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:20 am

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Encountering lot of cyberhate for this decision.
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Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Benjamin Grimm » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:47 am

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I remember in 1984 I was pretty upset that Mike Torrez was going to be the Opening Day starter. I was 20 years old, so I'll cut myself some slack here. So if the people complaining about Colon getting the start are as young and callow as I was, then it's only fair for me to cut them the same slack. But any mature grownups who are having a conniption over this (whatever a "conniption" may actually be) need to get over it.

Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Bartolo Colon

Postby Edgy MD » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:38 pm

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If my math is correct, Bartolo has RBI'd in his 66th at-bat, two short of breaking — much less keeping — Doug Saunders record.
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