Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

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Who do you for Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction?

Bon Jovi
3
3%
Kate Bush*
3
3%
The Cars
11
11%
Depeche Mode
6
6%
Dire Straits*
13
13%
Eurythmics*
5
5%
J. Geils Band
6
6%
Judas Priest*
5
5%
LL Cool J
2
2%
The MC5
2
2%
The Meters
2
2%
Moody Blues*
8
8%
Radiohead*
11
11%
Rage Against the Machine*
6
6%
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
1
1%
Nina Simone*
2
2%
Sister Rosetta Tharpe*
8
8%
Link Wray
4
4%
The Zombies
4
4%
 
Total votes : 102

Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby G-Fafif » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:36 pm

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Here are your Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame nominees for the Class of 2018; asterisks indicate first-time candidates. Poll it up, if you like.

Bon Jovi
Kate Bush*
The Cars
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits*
Eurythmics*
J. Geils Band
Judas Priest*
LL Cool J
The MC5
The Meters
Moody Blues*
Radiohead*
Rage Against the Machine*
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
Nina Simone*
Sister Rosetta Tharpe*
Link Wray
The Zombies
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Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:04 pm

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G-Fafif wrote:Judas Priest*

They must have seen the Friday Morning Metal thread.

Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:12 pm

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This yearly drives me nuts...
Bon Jovi - he hasn't bought his way in yet?
The Cars - seriously, not a unique influential band?
Dire Straits* - the asterisk is embarrassing.
J. Geils Band - better than Madonna, a lot better
Moody Blues* - who's in charge there? *?

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Postby Edgy MD » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:16 pm

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I'm tempted to be grumbly about Nina Simone, who'd class up the joint but I've never heard her sing two notes of rock 'n' roll. But I'm mollified to see Sr. Rosetta Tharpe among the nominees, easily the most egregious oversight.

Reportedly, no band has had as much fan lobbying over the years as Moody Blues, even leading to board members quitting because they've been shut down for even introducing the Blues for consideration. But here they are, first-time nominees.

Rufus Featuring Chaka Kahn isn't listed as a first-time nominee, but I'm pretty sure Chaka had previously been nominated on her own, but not the band.
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Postby Mets Willets Point » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:19 pm

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Only 5 options (sad face)?

I've got 10, and could probably make the case for more.

Kate Bush*
Depeche Mode
Eurythmics*
LL Cool J
The MC5
Radiohead*
Rage Against the Machine*
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
Nina Simone*
Sister Rosetta Tharpe*
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Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:12 pm

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Wow, you really are anti-Cars!

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I only learned about Sister Rosetta Tharpe when I was in Memphis last year. I was embarrassed that I'd never known about her before.
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Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:26 pm

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Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:41 pm

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Postby 41Forever » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:56 pm

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Cars are awesome and should be in!

Dire Straits has the right mix of hits, great playing and respectability.

I don't like Radiohead, but I know they are respected and influential.

Bob Jovi will get in, I'm sure. Not a big fan.

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Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:02 pm

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Bon Jovi sucks, but you're too nice to say it! Ooops, I just did.

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:28 pm

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Everyone knows Bon Jovi is a fraud.

The Cars certainly deserve in. They made new wave safe for rockers, and rock safe for new wavers. They came off edgy and new but were actually old souls that barely made an attempt to hide it. They were a critical and commercial success for the start, and a commercial success even after they stopped being a critical one. Same 5 guys every album. Going against them was their reputation for coldness, Ocasek's wooden live performances and strained detachment, probably a little too much production and not enough "art." But they are easy ins in my opinion. Batmags and Willets Point can bite my Shoo-be-doo.
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Postby batmagadanleadoff » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:46 pm

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The Cars certainly deserve in. They made new wave safe for rockers, and rock safe for new wavers. ... They were a critical and commercial .... Batmags and Willets Point can bite my Shoo-be-doo.


You could say the same for The Police, The Talking Heads and Blondie-- all new wavin' contemporaries of The Cars and R&R HOF inductees for about 15 years now.

15 years. Bite your own Shoo-be-doo.

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:02 pm

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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The Cars certainly deserve in. They made new wave safe for rockers, and rock safe for new wavers. ... They were a critical and commercial .... Batmags and Willets Point can bite my Shoo-be-doo.


You could say the same for The Police, The Talking Heads and Blondie-- all new wavin' contemporaries of The Cars and R&R HOF inductees for about 15 years now.

15 years. Bite your own Shoo-be-doo.


I'm not arguing against those 3 but the cases all are different.
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Postby d'Kong76 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:55 pm

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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Chad Ochoseis » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:10 pm

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Subjectivity. It's weird, and it makes it weird to have a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm all in favor of having one, particularly because it's a cash cow for my adopted hometown. But I have no idea what to base a vote on. If you think Gil MacDougald was a better baseball player than Willie Mays, it's because you're clueless about baseball, and I can prove it to you objectively. If you think Bruce Springsteen's music is better than Richard Thompson's, well, I don't agree with you, but there's not any way I can convince you that I'm right and you're wrong.

That being said, I'm a shoo-be-doo bitin' non-Cars fan. Not grungy enough to be New Wave. Not technical enough to be good classick rawk. Not really a great bridge between the two. And Ric Ocasek's voice grates on me.

I'm with Edgy on Nina Simone. Easily the best artist on this list, but not rock and roll. Or roots. Or an influence.

I'm another one of the benighted group that had never heard of Sister Rosetta Tharpe. So I went over to YouTube and listened, and she gets my vote.

The other four:

The Meters
Dire Straits
Depeche Mode
Kate Bush

And, yeah, Richard Thompson - with or without Fairport Convention - should be on next year's list. And Koko Taylor, too.
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Postby Mets Willets Point » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:59 pm

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Honestly, when I hear a Cars song it grates on my nerves, it causes a physical revulsion. I can't explain it, but I also can't listen to it.
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Postby Fman99 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:04 pm

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Cars. Dire Straits. J Geils Band. I can pass on all the rest.
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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Edgy MD » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:47 pm

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Chad Ochoseis wrote:Subjectivity. It's weird, and it makes it weird to have a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm all in favor of having one, particularly because it's a cash cow for my adopted hometown. But I have no idea what to base a vote on.

Yeah, but curators of all sorts get paid big bucks, and there's a method and a standard to what they do. Does the artist or work influence, embody, or advance the form? This is subjective, yeah, but there is objective evidence to bring to bear, assuming a sincere body can come to an agreement on what the form is.

Obviously science is science and art is art, but some science can be applied to the appreciation of art and the study of it's impact.
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Postby Ashie62 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:11 pm

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Bon Jovi- Pretty much Inevitable.
The Cars
Radiohead
Judas Priest

Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Frayed Knot » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:48 pm

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Edgy MD wrote:Yeah, but curators of all sorts get paid big bucks, and there's a method and a standard to what they do. Does the artist or work influence, embody, or advance the form? This is subjective, yeah, but there is objective evidence to bring to bear, assuming a sincere body can come to an agreement on what the form is.


Except that there seems to be a particular lack of transparency with this particular HoF -- both in the nomination process and then on who goes through and how -- that who knows how any of the above applies.
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Postby Edgy MD » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:26 am

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I didn't defend the RnRHoF's process by any stretch.

I'm saying there is a right way to curate that brings a science to the subjectivity, not that they are a model.
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Postby A Boy Named Seo » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:54 am

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I don't think there's been a more important or influential band than Radiohead the last 20 years. Slam dunk, those guys.

Rage and MC5 have kinda similar arcs, so? RATM's debut was so powerful and scared the shit out of people, but that comet burned out too, too quickly. But holy shit, "Killing in the Name of".
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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Edgy MD » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:43 am

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Yeah, you got me to unclick Eurythmics and throw my vote to Radiohead.

I've seen both acts, and both surprised me in different ways. I guess Radiohead ... unsettled me a little bit.
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