Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

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Who do you for Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction?

Bon Jovi
3
3%
Kate Bush*
3
3%
The Cars
11
11%
Depeche Mode
6
6%
Dire Straits*
13
13%
Eurythmics*
5
5%
J. Geils Band
6
6%
Judas Priest*
5
5%
LL Cool J
2
2%
The MC5
2
2%
The Meters
2
2%
Moody Blues*
8
8%
Radiohead*
11
11%
Rage Against the Machine*
6
6%
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
1
1%
Nina Simone*
2
2%
Sister Rosetta Tharpe*
8
8%
Link Wray
4
4%
The Zombies
4
4%
 
Total votes : 102

Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:37 pm

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sharpie wrote:MC5, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine? Sister Rosetta Thorpe were pretty obvious picks for me. Went with Dire Straits for the last one but will shed no tears if they have to wait longer. Nina Simone, Eurythmics and Link Wrau got consideration and now I'm wishing I had used that last pick for Link. None of the others are Haml worthy in my nook.


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MC5 (How are they NOT in yet?)
Radiohead
Rage
Sister Rosetta
Link Wray

Any of you "HELL NAW" on Rage people who claim to be fans of innovative musicianship: have you ever, like, listened to a Rage song, or any Tom Morello guitar work?
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The Cars
Dire Straits
Eurythmics
LL Cool J
Radiohead
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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Vic Sage » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:18 pm

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The J. Geils Band is now on the edge of Vic's ballot, a bordeline HOF'er, maybe even an out-and-out full fledged deserving HOFer. There's
been a big change of heart here, perhaps a major re-evaluation, because last year, the Geilers had as much chance as getting Vic's vote as Duffy Dyer had of getting into baseball's HOF.


Don't get so excited. I voted for the Zombies. I like JGeils, but i don't "like like" them.

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I'm good until next year.


That one was just for you, Kevin. I never had any intention of voting for them, but i wanted to throw you metal heads a bone.
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Vic Sage wrote:I never had any intention of voting for them, but i wanted to throw you metal heads a bone.


Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Edgy MD » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:13 pm

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Suddenly sneaking into a tie for fourth place is Moody Blues! Waiting years (decades!) to finally get considered, but despite the lobbying of their fans, never getting so much as a nomination! Now that they're on the ballot, they're actually sitting in the money! At least here at the Crane Pool they are!

Moody Blues!!

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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby Ashie62 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:07 pm

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I can't vote for Dire Straits as I see them as a one man band that didn't hang around terribly long.

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Postby Vic Sage » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:49 am

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Ashie62 wrote:I can't vote for Dire Straits as I see them as a one man band that didn't hang around terribly long.


neither of those points is particularly true. While Knopfler was obviously its driving force, there were other musicians in the group that spanned all or most of the band's releases. They were a group from 77-95, during which they released 5 studio albums, 3 live albums and a "Best of", which is a duration and output that i think passes the Koufax test for sufficient length of greatness.

Now if you don't particularly like them, that's another matter. But they were a hugely successful, critically acclaimed, chart-topping, award-winning band for nearly 20 years, with a distinctive sound, and they were on the cutting edge of digital recording (BROTHERS IN ARMS produced the 1st CD single, and the 1st CD album to sell a million copies), successfully used MTV's newly emerging format to globalize their appeal, and participated in many charitable events, including LIVE AID.

I think they are 1st ballot HOFers.
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Postby Edgy MD » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:13 am

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Tied for sixth and just out of the money with six votes, despite a no-nay-never vote from Vic, are hard rock/hip hop crossover guyz Rage Against the Machine.

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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby 41Forever » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:59 pm

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I love Dire Straits. I think "Making Movies" is darn close to album perfection. And if they had swapped out "Les Boys" with "Twisting by the Pool," which was recorded during those sessions, it would be perfect.

"Romeo and Juliet" and "Skateaway" are incredible. But just about everything on there is great.

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:01 pm

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That's a good suggestion on "Twisting" even though that also doesn't click in so neatly with the rest of MM's big epic dramas.

Not that Les Boys does either. Mark "Lookit that faggot" Knopfler will never be accused of being too funny.
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Postby Edgy MD » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:43 pm

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That song remains one of histories great puzzlers. All these engaged, romantic, impressionistic, epic masterpieces, and then the album ends with this declarative, observational, 2/4 toss off. I don't want to call it a dud, but it sure sounds like a B-side to me.

Making Movies is otherwise as desert island-y as it gets for me. I don't think of DS as a one-man band, but it's very interesting that, as much as Knopfler's guitar, the defining sound of that record comes from ringer Roy Bittan, whose piano is all over that record, leaving it one wailing sax solo short of being Born to Run, Part II. Is that borrowed authority?

In seventh place, with five votes, comes synth goth mainstays Depeche Mode:

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Postby Edgy MD » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:43 pm

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She just said, "Baby! Don't even bother to try!"

The J. Giels band, tied for seventh place.

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Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:35 am

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Your Hall of Fame Class of 2018:

  • Bon Jovi (The People's Choice),
  • The Cars,
  • Dire Straits,
  • The Moody Blues (beneficiaries of a decades-long lobbying campaign by their fans), and
  • Nina Simone
  • Sister Rosetta Tharpe, inducted as an "early influence," though she was on the main ballot and deserved to make it on the main ballot

The Cars have long been one of the more screwed acts out there, along with Sister Rosetta. I tend to think the HoF is trending in the right direction, notwithstanding BJ and Nina Simone, who stand as questionable bones thrown to populism on one hand and elitism on the other.
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Postby Vic Sage » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:54 am

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i had CARS, DIRE STRAITS and MOODY BLUES on my ballot. But I'm surprised by Simone and Bon Jovi.
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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

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Edgy MD wrote:Your Hall of Fame Class of 2018:

  • Bon Jovi (The People's Choice),
  • The Cars,
  • Dire Straits,
  • The Moody Blues (beneficiaries of a decades-long lobbying campaign by their fans), and
  • Nina Simone
  • Sister Rosetta Tharpe, inducted as an "early influence," though she was on the main ballot and deserved to make it on the main ballot

The Cars have long been one of the more screwed acts out there, along with Sister Rosetta. I tend to think the HoF is trending in the right direction, notwithstanding BJ and Nina Simone, who stand as questionable bones thrown to populism on one hand and elitism on the other.


If Nina Simone and Sister Rosetta were still alive that would make an interesting induction concert. As it is, it looks like a VH-1 "Remember the 80s" adult contemporary lineup.
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Postby 41Forever » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:30 am

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No Radiohead?

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Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:38 am

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They hopefully have plenty of time and plenty of music ahead of them.

Hey, look, it's Thom Yorke communing with BB-8.

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Our ballots said:

    Dire Straits: 12 votes
    The Cars: 11 votes
    Radiohead: 11 votes
    Moody Blues: 7 votes
    Sister Rosetta Tharpe: 7 votes

So basically we were with the committee with the exception of supporting Radiohead (a strong candidate going forward) over Bon Jovi and Nina Simone. I think we were right in this regard, if only because we were smart enough to collectively dock Bon Jovi about a thousand points for "Back-Door Santa."
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Postby 41Forever » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:02 am

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Edgy MD wrote:
I think we were right in this regard, if only because we were smart enough to collectively dock Bon Jovi about a thousand points for "Back-Door Santa."



It's so bad. Just listen to the opening keyboard riffs. I can't believe no one at the time said, "Hold on. Seriously?"


Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby smg58 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:04 am

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Radiohead will get in sooner rather than later, but Dire Straits and The Moody Blues ought to have been inducted at least a decade ago, and it was criminal that they weren't even on the ballot until this year. While I'm not as big a fan of The Cars as some people on here, they belong as well.

I've seen one video clip of Sister Rosetta Tharpe, which was all she needed to get my vote.

Journey got in, and I like Bon Jovi more than I like Journey. Which is not to say that I like Bon Jovi.

I was happy to see Kate Bush on the ballot. Hounds of Love is one of my all-time favorite albums. Now to get Midnight Oil on the ballot.

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Postby Ashie62 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:55 am

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I did vote for Bon Jovi based on their body of work and influence in South Jersey and Philadelphia.

I think we all did well.

Take a bow.

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Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:10 pm

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smg58 wrote:Now to get Midnight Oil on the ballot.

I'm not necessarily going to jump on the Oil train (though I dig them and I agree with most of your post), I do think it's healthy and important to get bands who have succeeded more in non-American markets onto the ballot and voted on by non-American curators. Midnight Oil, Smiths, Crowded House, Suzi Quattro, Chris deBurgh, Nick Cave, Johnny Clegg, The Pixies and others are all acts whose legacy is debatable, but it's undeniable that their overseas success dwarfs their relatively brief runs as top-billed artists in the US, and the Hall doesn't seem to weigh that much.

Yeah, that might mean a few head-scratching moments like "The Scorpions? Seriously?" but it'd be more fairly representative of R&R as a global phenomenon, and get some foreign tourist $$ into Cleveland.
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Postby Ashie62 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:17 pm

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I am all in on Suzi Quatro and the Smiths.

Midnight Oil did zero for me. The Pixies and Nick Cave likely come up a little small although I do like both very much.

Suzi has been around the world a few times since about 1970 fronting and backing a long list of A list talent.

She wears it will.

Any love for The Tom Robinson Band? Likely not enough but they set some things on fire for a few years.

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Re: Rockin' Nominees (RnR HOF 2018)

Postby sharpie » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:28 pm

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Of the bands Edgy mentioned I would heartily endorse Nick Cave - also puts on one of the best live shows around. I can also endorse The Smiths and wouldn't object to Crowded House. Billy Bragg was nominated one year and should be lumped in with that crowd.

Midnight Oil? No.

As far as the current inductees, I only voted for Sister Rosetta Tharpe. I was close on Dire Straits and don't object to the Cars or the Moody Blues though I don't care much for either band. Bon Jovi is pretty terrible but there are other terrible acts in there. The Radiohead snub is a surprise.

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Postby Edgy MD » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:53 pm

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I'm not trying to endorse or un-endorse any of those guys. Just trying to advance a principle.

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