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The ice was here, the ice was there. 2017-18 hockey thread

Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:25 pm

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Guys I have to admit my fling with ice hockey is becoming a real thing. Anyone watching the NHL?

I am in the habit now of DVR in Islanders games and watching closely. The Isles to my untainted eyes are pretty good, fast and exciting so far, and subleties of the game are beginning to reveal themselves as I watch.

Late last year when I first started watching I was excited about rookie Josh Ho-Sang but he's awful compared to Mat Barzal, a rookie this year who after Tavares is usually the second best player on the ice. This guy is fun to watch like HoSang, only not a complete fuckup who turns the puck over 10x a game.
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Postby Ceetar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:12 pm

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I'm having trouble with the random nature of when games are on. With baseball it's like "7pm, just flip on SNY every day" but the Isles are off for days and then I forget.

Plus bedtime and bedtime routine from like 7:45-9+ is prohibitive.
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Postby Nymr83 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:13 pm

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Ceetar wrote:I'm having trouble with the random nature of when games are on. With baseball it's like "7pm, just flip on SNY every day" but the Isles are off for days and then I forget.

Plus bedtime and bedtime routine from like 7:45-9+ is prohibitive.


DVR?

do they have the equivalent of late-night "Knicks in 60"?
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Postby Ceetar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:29 pm

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I always feel weird about DVRing games, especially as I'm always on Twitter and such and it'd be spoiled. Plus by the time I get them to sleep and do other chores It's almost bed time. I'm sorta in the weeds here.

I should just see if the MSG Go app actually works and watch instead of reading Curious George for a 80th billion time.
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Postby d'Kong76 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:37 pm

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Nymr83 wrote:do they have the equivalent of late-night "Knicks in 60"?

Do you get 'Knicks in 60?' I miss it, don't get the Rangers' one either this year.

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Postby d'Kong76 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:43 pm

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Guys I have to admit my fling with ice hockey is becoming a real thing. Anyone watching the NHL?

I'm a casual Rangers' fan at best. Like I probably said last year I find it much more
enjoyable if watching with one or a couple of my puck-headed friends but to tune into
it on my own feels a bit tedious or something. Also, the hockey season really feels like
a pre-season (because it is) and the playoffs are much more entertaining. There's really
nothing more exciting than the last 5 minutes of a tied game than in playoff hockey.

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Postby Ceetar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:46 pm

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MSG Go does, in fact, work.

also has Isles Fast Forward.
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Postby d'Kong76 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:57 pm

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Makes ZERO sense that I could watch on a 10" tablet and not on a tv.

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:18 pm

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Yeah the Islanders are on a different Channel every night it seems. Plus my cable company when you search the word Islanders only gives you the listings for the games that are on the pay channels. Big pain in the ass. The DVR thing works ... You can watch a whole game in about 1:00 ... but you're right you have to stay away from Twitter. I ruined one game this year that way already.

How about that Barzal though? If he keeps it up he will win that trophy they give to the best rookie whatever they call it.
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Postby Ceetar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:22 pm

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Yeah the Islanders are on a different Channel every night it seems. Plus my cable company when you search the word Islanders only gives you the listings for the games that are on the pay channels. Big pain in the ass. The DVR thing works ... You can watch a whole game in about 1:00 ... but you're right you have to stay away from Twitter. I ruined one game this year that way already.

How about that Barzal though? If he keeps it up he will win that trophy they give to the best rookie whatever they call it.


For #spoiler reasons, let's not mention the trophy or recent winners until tomorrow.

edit: although technically it's a different trophy than what the Learned league question is asking about, and everyone in here's submitted already.
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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:32 pm

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Barzal tends to douchy post-goal behavior but check him out:

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Postby Ceetar » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:35 pm

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Islanders dominated the Lightning so hard for two periods I had to look up the standings and was shocked to see they were the best team in the league.

They let them creep back but ultimately a real nice 5-3 win.
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Postby 41Forever » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:10 pm

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We have a kick-butt minor league team. The staff is really nice, letting me bring my journalism students to a game one night to sit in the press box and interview the mascot and Zamboni driver.

Learned a lot of really cool stuff from the Zamboni guy, who has to care for the ice in addition to driving the rig. He's like the groundskeeper.

Here's something cool I learned. To get the lines and logos and things on the ice, they flood and freeze a layer of ice, paint all the stuff that gets painted on there with a special paint, then add a new layer of ice on top of that.

They leave it there most of the season -- until Disney on Ice comes to town and requires a paint-free sheet.

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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:39 am

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Ceetar wrote:Islanders dominated the Lightning so hard for two periods I had to look up the standings and was shocked to see they were the best team in the league.

They let them creep back but ultimately a real nice 5-3 win.


That was a great win followed by last night's mistakes. Islanders look like a team that's well-built for wide open, fast play and when they checked a lot they get way off their game.

Three other problems the Islanders appear to have:
1) Halak gives up too many soft goals
2) They lose too many faceoffs
3) Guys like Barzal and Ho-Sang at times pass too much and shoot too little
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Postby Ceetar » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:44 am

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Three other problems the Islanders appear to have:
1) Halak gives up too many soft goals
2) They lose too many faceoffs
3) Guys like Barzal and Ho-Sang at times pass too much and shoot too little


Haven't watched enough to be sure of anything myself, but I haven't ever really thought Halak was very good.

And hopefully #3 is something that will work itself out with time and familiarity with themselves/teammates.
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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:39 am

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They look good enough that an acquisition of a hot/good goalie could really help them. Agreed that we can expect the young guys to better find their place as time goes on.
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Postby Ceetar » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:43 pm

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    Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:12 pm

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    Yes that was something. Crazy that it had to come down to over time given how badly they outplayed the Flyers.
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    Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:48 am

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    Scary moment! Isles came back with 2 goals in final 5 minutes to tie Penguins but lose in OT.

    I didn't realize till I started watching hockey again that they changed the rules so that a regulation tie = 1 point even if you lose in OT or a shootout. This has probably been the case for years but I wasn't paying attention.
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    Postby Ceetar » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:52 am

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    yup, Overtime Loss is 1 point. It creates weird third period stuff during a tie, as both teams want to protect that point and play defensively.
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    Postby d'Kong76 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:47 pm

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    Not a fan of the shoot out to decide a tied OT game in regular season.
    Especially when it doesn't go my way.

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    Postby Ceetar » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:19 pm

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    d'Kong76 wrote:Not a fan of the shoot out to decide a tied OT game in regular season.
    Especially when it doesn't go my way.


    me neither, hate that the Rangers got a point.
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    Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:55 am

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    I dunno. It's not perfect but it does offer some resolution instead of a tie. I kind of like that.

    Isles completely took out the Caps last night, resounding victory. They are a long step away from being a great team but no doubt they are good to very good most nights and Barzal is a phenomenon. That should get them to the playoffs.
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