Multivitamin/Multi-mineral Supplements - Yay or Nay

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Multivitamin/Multi-mineral Supplements - Yay or Nay

Postby d'Kong76 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:26 am

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Among the many other things argued about this weekend was the taking
of multivitamins or vitamins in general. It was argued by the knower of all
things
that vitamin supplements end up just getting pee'd out of your body
hours later and that you should only get your vitamins from eating healthy.
I said I do eat relatively healthy, I'm in generally good health and get com-
prehensive blood work done 3-4 times a year so why stop taking my daily
vitamin after dinner? Tkoat snapped back it's just a waste of your money to
which I replied, 'no, a waste of my money was letting you open that fourth
bottle of wine." I didn't really say that, but I thought it.

Anyway, I take a vitamin every day and have done so for as long as I can
remember. Right now I'm a Centrum Silver daily for men 50+ guy... A-Zinc.
If it ain't broke, why change now...

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Postby Benjamin Grimm » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:30 am

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I take vitamins every morning. Also a fiber supplement.

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Postby 41Forever » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:33 am

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I say "Yay."

I take a daily multivitamin. I get the bottle from Costco and it lasts about a year. It's not very expensive. I figure it's better to err on the side of taking it if the only presumed downside is that is that I waste $12 a year. The upside is that I have an excuse not to eat kale and string beans.

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Postby Ceetar » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:40 am

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I take a general gummy vitamin, it's the easiest to remember to take probably because I don't also need to stop and get a glass of water.

I take a Vitamin D and a probiotic when I remember.

Studies seem clear that vitamins don't prevent/reduce risk of the big diseases and what not, and they all say "you can get everything you need from a balanced diet" like we all have that.

seems like vitamins are a good way to balance out that diet. Iron certainly helps with semi-anemic people that don't eat red meat EVERY DAY. Vitamin D does seem to have an effect. Even if you only actually convert a small portion of a Vitamin C pill, if you don't eat enough lemons it's certainly helping right? Just for overall health?

41Forever wrote:I say "Yay."

I take a daily multivitamin. I get the bottle from Costco and it lasts about a year. It's not very expensive. I figure it's better to err on the side of taking it if the only presumed downside is that is that I waste $12 a year. The upside is that I have an excuse not to eat kale and string beans.


general multivitamins aren't that bad. Vitamins in general I guess, it's the minerals that might cross into more expensive territory, and I always wonder if I wander into a VitaminShoppe what the difference is between see the $25 Red Krill pills and the $60 ones.

Probiotics can be expensive, but we're talking live culture stuff there.
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Postby MFS62 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:46 am

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Benjamin Grimm wrote: Also a fiber supplement.

Too much information.

I take a multi-vitamin every day, but because I'm on blood thinner/ pressure medication, I had to find one with the least amount of Vitamin K.

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Postby Fman99 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:56 am

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I used to take one, for years, but I don't any more, and I have not noticed any difference. I do eat a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables, so I am still getting a pretty balanced complement of vitamins via the more old fashioned way.
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Postby 41Forever » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:02 am

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Iron certainly helps with semi-anemic people that don't eat red meat EVERY DAY.


This made me remember something. I don't eat a lot of red meat. I just don't like it. An occasional burger at Steak n Shake or taco or a sloppy Joe, but not my kind of thing. But for a while I was having trouble donating blood because the iron level was too low. And I like donating, because I have an odd type, O-double neg, which they can give babies. So I looked for a multi that had the recommended daily dose of iron and I haven't had trouble since. I assume that's the vitamin, but I can't prove it.

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Postby Ceetar » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:11 am

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41Forever wrote:
Iron certainly helps with semi-anemic people that don't eat red meat EVERY DAY.


This made me remember something. I don't eat a lot of red meat. I just don't like it. An occasional burger at Steak n Shake or taco or a sloppy Joe, but not my kind of thing. But for a while I was having trouble donating blood because the iron level was too low. And I like donating, because I have an odd type, O-double neg, which they can give babies. So I looked for a multi that had the recommended daily dose of iron and I haven't had trouble since. I assume that's the vitamin, but I can't prove it.



leafy greens, spinach, kale, etc, are good for iron too. Iron definitely helps, but

There may be absorption issues as well, supposedly. It's hard to internet research this conclusively, but it there's some thought about how much of the supplement your body actually processes, and whether other supplements can help with that. Perhaps you could be deficient in those other minerals/vitamins and that's hurting your absorption of the iron in your natural diet. But in the end, whatever works. Seems like iron supplements can be harsh on the stomach sometimes.
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Postby d'Kong76 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:09 am

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41Forever wrote: The upside is that I have an excuse not to eat kale and string beans.

Well no, their called supplements for a reason. You have to eat your fruit
and vegetables for a whole host of reasons.

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Postby 41Forever » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:20 am

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d'Kong76 wrote:
41Forever wrote: The upside is that I have an excuse not to eat kale and string beans.

Well no, their called supplements for a reason. You have to eat your fruit
and vegetables for a whole host of reasons.



Oh, I do. Just not those two. Or peas.

But, I know a state that produces amazing apples, cherries, blueberries, carrots, asparagus, corn and grapes. Yum! We eat a lot of those. And sugar beets, but you don't eat those directly.

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Postby Fman99 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:21 am

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Postby d'Kong76 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:23 am

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Love beets, the greens too (as we've discussed some time ago in
another thread)...
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Postby Lefty Specialist » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:26 am

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Multivitamins every morning. I like the gummy kind.
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Postby metsmarathon » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:31 am

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ideally, you'd get all the vitamins and minerals you need from a balanced diet.

if your diet is fully balanced, then you don't need to supplement. side note - how does tkoat know that they are indeed eating a sufficiently balanced diet?

also, if tkoat is attaining their dietary balance by eating such things as a breakfast of total (which has 100% of your daily allowances of a bunch of stuff, according to the box) then they're full of shit, because that cereal is basically a multivitamin in flaky milk-soaked form.

a lot of vitaminny supplementation is possibly bullshit. and the excess gets peed out (for most things - other things may be harmful in excess). but unless you're peeing out as much as you're taking in, you're putting more vitamins and minerals into your body than you otherwise would, which is probably a good thing.

but seriously, the only way you can make hte claim that you don't need to take vitamins is if you're getting all you need through a diet which consists of zero processed or packaged foods, because once you eat anything that's fortified with something it didn't naturally grow with, then you'v e just made the argument for dietary supplementation.

and i don't think that argument was about differing sources of dietary supplementation (ie drinking an ensure as opposed to choking down a centrum)

i take vitamins infrequently, because i suck at habits. when i do, its a multivitamin and a magnesium enhancer. occasionally some bees as well.
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Postby Ceetar » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:41 am

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metsmarathon wrote:. occasionally some bees as well.


So that's why they're dying out?!
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Postby d'Kong76 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:44 am

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metsmarathon wrote:how does tkoat know that they are indeed eating a sufficiently balanced diet?

Well, it gets tricky... tkoat knows because she kat?

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that is a good point that i had not yet adequately considered.
the first step is admitting you're a runner.

running is a mental sport, and we're all insane.

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Postby 41Forever » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:53 am

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Fman99 wrote:Beets suck. I'd rather get beat than eat a beet.


I'm not fond of regular beets, either. But sugar beets are used to make sugar. Visited a plant one day. It was neat to see.

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Postby Vic Sage » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:58 am

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I don't eat what cows eat... I just eat the cow. It's more efficient. And the last vitamin i had looked like Fred Flintstone.

I get all my vitamins from coffee and donuts in the morning, pizza in the afternoon, and burger & fries for dinner, and ice cream for dessert. Or other meals and variations of similar nutritional value. I don't plan to live particularly long but i'm going to go out with a smile on my face. I certainly won't be regretting all the Kale i missed out on.

I'm often told that i could live an extra 20 years were i to change my lifestyle. And i would take that deal, if i could choose the 20 years from age 20-40. those were a great 20 years, and i'd take 20 more of those. But i ain't giving up fried chicken and pies, and start running on a tread mill, so i can add 20 more years to the END of my life. i've seen what life looks like after you hit 80. No thanks. Just pass the gravy and haagen daz.
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Postby John Cougar Lunchbucket » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:07 pm

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My doc says I test low for Vitamin D, I think, so she suggests I have some of that shit from time to time, but I always forget. I eat a ton of fruits and veggies, as well as a ton of what Vic eats, so I figure I'm ok without supporting the supplement industry, which I know has some insane markups
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Postby d'Kong76 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:16 pm

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I need D too, I haven't drank a full glass of milk since I was like 10. Centrum
Silver just upped their D to 250%. I don't always take Centrum (but rather CVS
or other store brand which basically reads line for line with C S) but I think KB
had a big coupon and bought it this time around.

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Postby Ceetar » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:47 pm

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:My doc says I test low for Vitamin D, I think, so she suggests I have some of that shit from time to time, but I always forget. I eat a ton of fruits and veggies, as well as a ton of what Vic eats, so I figure I'm ok without supporting the supplement industry, which I know has some insane markups


have you gone to the doc in say, August? I suspect this is simply a working all day inside thing, and we sneak in enough on in the summer generally. Virtually everyone seems to say they test low for D.

Though I DO seem to notice a difference when I make a point to take it at least 3x a week. 5000mu. Mostly in energy level.
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Postby sharpie » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:58 pm

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I'm a nay. I try to eat well and do most of the time but since a doctor has never told me that I have to take vitamins then I won't. If I'm told I should take them for some reason that is particular to my health then I will/

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Postby cooby » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:20 am

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Been on a low carb diet (not Atkins, we're not crazy)

I take a 50+ woman's every night. Supposed to be taking iron and calcium and vitamin d too but hardly ever do.

Also supposed to be taking an osteo pill once a week first thing in the morning but since I then have to wait an hour for coffee I never remember to take it lol

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Postby cooby » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:04 pm

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I was about to start a vitamin thread when I remembered we had one.


Does anybody take gummy vitamins? I see they are really a big thing but I'm not seeing the advantage

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