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Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:18 pm

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41Forever wrote:A work email wouldn’t contain home information. Never said it did. Please stop. Just stop.


That's right. You didn't say "home". You did say address and phone number, though. If not, what did you say? What personal info did you claim I improperly disclosed?

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

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Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:29 pm

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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
41Forever wrote:A work email wouldn’t contain home information. Never said it did. Please stop. Just stop.


That's right. You didn't say "home". You did say address and phone number, though. If not, what did you say? What personal info did you claim I improperly disclosed?


Here's the quote:

41Forever wrote:I changed my screen name more than a year ago after Batmags was searching partisan blogs for attack stories about me, and posted one that used my name, email, phone number and work address.


viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26253&p=714973&hilit=+phone#p714973


My link didn't include any phone number or any kind of physical address, work or home. It included your name, which everybody here knows and a stale .gov publicly available work email, which as I said, was stale and no longer in use when I screen shotted it. So stop gilding the lily here. And the link wasn't from a partisan blog. It was from Detroit's largest weekly newspaper, which I will grant you, is left leaning. But it's a legitimate, credible newpaper from what I can gather, "consistently winning awards from the Michigan Press Association, the Detroit Society of Professional Journalists Excellence in Media Awards, and the Association of Alternative Newsmedia Altweekly Awards, according to its' Wiki page. It appears to be, based on my light research, Detroit's version of NYC's Village Voice.

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:34 pm

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metsmarathon wrote:work info = personal info.


Fine. But it was stale info, as he'd been gone from that position long after I posted it. And it was a publicly available stale email address to boot. This was the calculation I made when I decided to post to a page that disclosed his old and stale email address. Which in any event, appeared in a newspaper, not a blog, in which he was acting in his capacity as a public government official in connection with a national news story that's made the front pages of the nation's most important newspapers. And there was no phone or physical address info in that link, which I would never ever disclose. His accusation is just bullshit. Exaggerated bullshit.
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Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:53 pm

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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
metsmarathon wrote:work info = personal info.


Fine. It was stale info, as he'd been gone from that position long after I posted it. And it was a publicly available stale email address to boot. This was the calculation I made when I decided to post to a page that disclosed his old and stale email address. Which in any event, appeared in a newspaper, not a blog, in which he was acting in his capacity as a public government official in connection with a national news story that's made the front pages of the nation's most important newspapers. And there was no phone or physical address info in that link, which I would never ever disclose. His accusation is just bullshit. Exaggerated bullshit.


And we're talking about an email that 41F voluntarily sent to a public newspaper in his capacity as a public official acting in relation to the Flint water scandal. An email that was publicly disclosed by his own boss, the Governor of Michigan, in response to a request for emails related to that scandal. Emails that were scrutinized with a fine tooth comb by thousands of people, including hot-shot lawyers and some of the biggest names in Michigan politics --- given the enormity of the underlying story -- the Flint water scandal. Emails that were discussed in every major Michigan newspaper and news TV programs. So what and whose privacy did I allegedly violate, especially since 41F's ".gov" email address was, as I've said before, stale when I screen-shot it?

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:00 pm

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Oh, and law enforcement, too. Those emails, including the one I screen-shot were scrutinized by law enforcement as it, to this very day, continues to indict people connected with that scandal, climbing higher and higher up the chain of command.......

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

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I'd hate think if old Dukey had nursed a grudge and attacked me years later over that damned towel. But he was okay and he let it go.

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Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:26 pm

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Lefty Specialist wrote:I used to have a dog who liked to play with an old towel. Sometimes I'd pull on the towel to play with him. He'd growl and pull back on it. I'd pull harder myself and then he'd really get into it, throwing his head from side to side and snarling. At this point it wasn't fun any longer for either of us, so I let go. After all, at the end of the day it was only a beat-up old towel. He'd go to his favorite corner and curl up as if nothing had happened.

I'd hate think if old Dukey had nursed a grudge and attacked me years later over that damned towel. But he was okay and he let it go.

Good dog.


It's easy for you to say. He won't personally insult you when you disparage Betsy Devos. With you, he can disagree politely. Same when CF tells him to go fuck himself 10 times in the same post or when VicSage rips him 25 new assholes and calls him a "Republican shill" every time 41F writes a political post. It's funny how when I can defend myself with perfectly reasonable and logical posts, with indisputable evidence, I should drop it, because no one's interested in reading it. But when he falsely accuses me, I'm an asshole. It's funny how that works on this forum. He once also dragged you into this feud, falsely claiming that you told him not to engage with me, when in reality, you told him not to engage politically with anybody being that he "wasn't allowed" to comment on certain things.

And this disagreement runs deeper. Because the next domino that has to fall is his bullshit explanation for changing his alias on account of that I violated his privacy by allegedly disclosing his phone and address. The story doesn't hold up to even the lightest scrutiny. Even if I did post his phone and address, which I didn't, 41F eventually linked to the MGIM blog, acknowledging that it was "his blog" --- thus sending everyone to his personal blog, which is chock full of his personal info. So the idea that he changed his alias to distance himself from his personal info on account of me is nothing more than a mean-spirited lie to make me look bad.

It'd be nice if he could also fess up to writing that Trump is "a nice guy". I'm not 100% sure that 41F wrote the Trump nice guy post. I'm a million percent sure. A day or two earlier, he posted that Trump was coming to Michigan and he was going to meet him; that he'd met several other presidents and candidates in his lifetime, and now he was going to meet another one. A few days later, he wrote the Trump nice guy post. I remember staring at that post, like it was a few hours ago, wanting to vomit in my mouth when I read it, and formulating hypothetical responses to that post in my head -- posts that I never wrote because back then, we weren't feuding.

What's going on is that 41F, recognizing just how marginalized I am on this forum, figures he can bullshit me with impunity, counting on the fact that in a he said/she said between the two of us, no one's ever gonna take my side. That's exactly what's going on. That's why he can falsely say that I disclosed his phone and address. Because when I can prove he's full of shit, someone like you comes along to write that no one's interested in my defense and that I should just drop it.
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Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby d'Kong76 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:33 pm

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How are you marginalized? You take the place over at will whenever you want and
all we do is occasionally move a few nasty posts to quarantine or whatever.
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Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:42 pm

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d'Kong76 wrote:How are you marginalized? You take the place over at will whenever you want and
all we do is occasionally move a few nasty posts to quarantine or whatever.


I can't believe that with everything I just finished writing in my post just above, the thing you think needs commenting on is the "marginalized" issue.

Actually, I was being ironic. I can believe it.

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby 41Forever » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:04 pm

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So much of that is distorted or inaccurate. But please, stop this. It’s hurtful. Just about everyone here has asked you to stop.

As I said in the earlier post, I have no idea why you are obsessed with me, or have so much hostility. I don’t know what has happened that prompts you to lash out so violently or try to hurt people individually and the forum as a whole.

Like I said, I pray that you somehow find peace in your life, and that you are able to overcome whatever it is that prompts you to try to hurt people.

I’ve said I’ve tried to imagine what it’s like to walk in your shoes and see the world from your perspective. I’ve struggled to do that. We must come from very different places and have had vastly different experiences that shape the way we see the world and interact with people.

Again, I’m asking you as sincerely and politely as I possibly can. Please stop. So much unneeded stress and unproductive time. Please, leave me alone.

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:17 pm

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41Forever wrote:So much of that is distorted or inaccurate. But please, stop this. It’s hurtful. Just about everyone here has asked you to stop.

As I said in the earlier post, I have no idea why you are obsessed with me, or have so much hostility. I don’t know what has happened that prompts you to lash out so violently or try to hurt people individually and the forum as a whole.

Like I said, I pray that you somehow find peace in your life, and that you are able to overcome whatever it is that prompts you to try to hurt people.

I’ve said I’ve tried to imagine what it’s like to walk in your shoes and see the world from your perspective. I’ve struggled to do that. We must come from very different places and have had vastly different experiences that shape the way we see the world and interact with people.

Again, I’m asking you as sincerely and politely as I possibly can. Please stop. So much unneeded stress and unproductive time. Please, leave me alone.


I can leave you alone. But I'll note that your post, once again, is non-responsive. And it's insulting. You're implying that there's something the matter with me, when you know nothing about me. I don't know how people like you can live with themselves, championing the racist views of a Jeff Sessions, or the health and tax bills that came out this spineless GOP senate.

You can accuse me of mean-spirited bullshit, but as soon as I can apparently defend myself is when I'm supposed to drop it. What you did is write a passive-agressive all smothered in your aw shucks politeness post that I should sidestep your bullshit accusation that I posted your phone and address from a partisan blog. You must think that any criticism leveled at you is biased inaccurate partisanship. Your shit doesn't stink.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:59 pm

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Why are these posts from today in the red-light forum? I want an explanation. You can PM me if you think it's more appropriate.

Why are 41F's bullshit accusations allowed to remain in the regular forum, but when I defend myself, it ends up here. Why are my responses to Kong's #nonsense post also here?

I really want an explanation.

What's so red-light about these posts. The thread title is personal attacks, for crying out loud.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:07 pm

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Did that fucking crybaby whine to get my posts put here?

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:18 pm

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Next thing you know, the fucking crybaby is probably campaigning to have me banned even though the fucking tagline on this thread encourages ill will against other posters.

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:32 pm

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It's a thread about personal attacks. But as soon as I discuss personal attacks made against me in the past, those posts get moved to the red light forum.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:35 pm

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There he is, online, his name appearing in the users browsing the forum. He's probably tattle-taling on me, as I write this, in some PM's to the mods because I defended myself against his bullshit story that I once posted his phone number and address. He's still a comment censor.

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:43 pm

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41Forever wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
dgwphotography wrote:MGIM is 41Forever

Can't keep track of the players without a scorecard.
The next thing you're going to tell me is Batmags' other name is Bruce Wayne?
Hey! This isn't some trick to get us to buy scorecards, is it?

Later


I changed my screen name more than a year ago after Batmags was searching partisan blogs for attack stories about me, and posted one that used my name, email, phone number and work address


Am I allowed to defend myself against this blatant "falsehood" bullshit? Or will my defense get red-lit? What are the parameters here? Or am I obligated to endure this blatant "falsehood" bullshit as if my hands are tied behind my back and there's a gag over my mouth? Some fair fight that is. Youse've red-lit so many of my posts that what's left of the original threads lacks continuity and makes little sense. Same for the red-light threads, where my posts now reside, but without the surrounding context to give them the proper meaning.
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Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:45 pm

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Jeez, that post I just responded to was already red-lit. I didn't even realize that. What a clusterfuck.

Well, if it's already in here, then I'm going to change the words "falsehood" to "bullshit".

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:48 pm

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Hah. Nomar's in the red-light forum. You wanna know what he's doing here? Not reading my posts. That's what.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:59 pm

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batmagadanleadoff wrote:Hah. Nomar's in the red-light forum. You wanna know what he's doing here? Not reading my posts. That's what.




Nomar came to the Red-Light forum to ignore my posts. That's so funny.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:26 pm

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Why was that post deleted? I want a rule. Not some arbitrary action.

Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:33 pm

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41Forever wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
dgwphotography wrote:MGIM is 41Forever

Can't keep track of the players without a scorecard.
The next thing you're going to tell me is Batmags' other name is Bruce Wayne?
Hey! This isn't some trick to get us to buy scorecards, is it?

Later


I changed my screen name more than a year ago after Batmags was searching partisan blogs for attack stories about me, and posted one that used my name, email, phone number and work address


___________________________

Here's what's going on. I posted a screen shot to show that I never posted 41F's phone or address. The post was deleted. I then posted the screenshot again, but this time I redacted his name, and old, public stale .gov email address. I covered up a photoshop of his head with a Mets logo. The post was also deleted, even with the redactions. Here's the accompanying text that I wrote with the screenshot, also deleted:

Let him explain where the fuck his phone and address appear on this screenshot. And while he's at it, he can explain how the Detroit Metro Times is a partisan blog. Though I suppose that in his head, any criticism of him is dismissed as coming from a biased partisan blog. This email, as I wrote before, but with all the post-moving and red-lighting, and outright deleting, I can't even keep track of what's what and what's where, but this email was part of a disclosure of Flint scandal related emails released by the Mich. Governor. The emails were scrutinized with a fine tooth comb by the print and tv media, lawyers, pols and thousands of citizens. And the specific email screen-shot above was voluntarily sent by 41F to a newspaper in his capacity as press secretary. By the time I first screen-shot it, 41F had left the building, so his .gov email address was old and stale. There's no violation of someone's privacy there. And there's no 41F phone or physical address of any kind, because I know I didn't post that kind of info and it's not in my character to do so. I'm simply defending myself against his mean-spirited accusations, which should be my right to do.

He'll never apologize for his nasty lie. He'll just campaign to have this post deleted.



This is utter bullshit.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:41 pm

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I can comply with whatever the rules are. But I don't see the rule that would explain why my posts were deleted. If you're just gonna delete these posts arbitrarily, without even giving me the courtesy of an explanation, even when I ask for one, then I'm just gonna think that you're acting on whatever whim mainly to satisfy some personal scores. Which is what it looks like.

Re: Quarantine

Postby batmagadanleadoff » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:46 pm

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Look who's back to visit the Red Light forum. It's Nomar! Back to ignore some more of my posts. He's making Grimm look very naive.


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